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Huna_Priest
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 Posted - 24/07/2008 : 23:04:41
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Greetings,
I am going to Oahu later this year... 
Is there anybody connected with Huna that any of you would recommend that I visit while in Oahu ??
My Kahuna was Kahuna Clark Wilkerson, does any of you have any contact with others who were initiated and ordained by my Kahuna ??
Love... Life... Light...
"Kaula Pele"
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Huna_Priest
USA
30 Posts |
Posted - 30/07/2008 : 00:04:19
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To Whom It May Concern,
Am I the only one who posts in this forum ??
Huna Mind and Two Bears, where are you guys at ??
Phil, do you ever reply to posts ??
Actually I was thinking of starting several other discussions, but whats the point, if nobody replies to anything I communicate...
love...Life... Light...
Huna Priest
"Kaula Pele"
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Phil
Ireland
190 Posts |
Posted - 31/07/2008 : 03:47:39
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Aloha,
I really don't know who is working in the tradition of Kahuna Clark Wilkerson.
It seems this board is past its heyday. Needs an injection of fresh energy to wake it up.
Thanks for your posts
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Huna_Priest
USA
30 Posts |
Posted - 31/07/2008 : 23:19:34
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Oops..idiot moderator deleted post rather than hitting reply...!!!!
Aloha Phil,
I will endeavor to reconstruct my spiritual quest later...
Love...Life...Light...
"Kaula Pele"
Huna Priest
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Phil
Ireland
190 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2008 : 08:38:07
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Aloha Kaula Pele,
An interesting quest. So sorry I accidentally deleted your post on your quest . Perhaps you could re-write it.
I made a special connection with madame pele on Kaua'i a few years backs as the result of a ritual healing at a heiau there. I will tell you more about it when I have finished teaching here on August 6th.
How did you first come across Huna?
A hui hou
Phil
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Huna_Priest
USA
30 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2008 : 13:46:33
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Aloha,
This is where I will reconstruct my spiritual quest that Phil accidentally deleted...
Love...Life...Light...
"Kaula Pele"
Huna Priest
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Phil
Ireland
190 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2008 : 08:19:04
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| Interesting that you mentioned Huna Mind and Two Bears. I notice on visiting the Hunamind.info site that much of it has not be updated in a long time. Shame as it was turning into a great resource. However, I did notice what I thought was an outrageous and recent post on Kahuna Lani saying that he was schizophrenic, a medical diagnosis that in no way should have been posted. I conversed with Hana Lani due to his activities on the Masterworks Huna Boards for many years and what I do know is that a lot of his responses to people that they did not understand came from his being constantly attacked for expressing his opinions. I never had any challenges with him in any way. The truth is, so much of so called "Huna" history and biography is profoundly flawed and based on large amounts of fantasy and self aggrandisement. |
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Huna_Priest
USA
30 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2008 : 20:33:53
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Aloha Phil,
I have had very positive dialogue with both Two Bears and Huna Mind...
Have you been to the forum run by Two Bears ??
I am a member of Two Bears forum...
Is the degogatory post on Kahuna Lani at the Huna Mind info site ??
Love...Life...Light...
"Kaula Pele"
Huna Priest
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Huna_Priest
USA
30 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2008 : 21:09:31
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Originally posted by Phil
Aloha Kaula Pele,
An interesting quest. So sorry I accidentally deleted your post on your quest. Perhaps you could re-write it.
I made a special connection with madame pele on Kaua'i a few years backs as the result of a ritual healing at a heiau there. I will tell you more about it when I have finished teaching here on August 6th.
How did you first come across Huna?
A hui hou
Phil
Aloha Phil,
I am looking forward to hearing about your special connection with Goddess Pele...
I do not speak a lot of Hawaiian, so what does "A hui hou" mean ??
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"How did you first come across Huna?"
I personally studied and trained under my Kahuna Clark Wilkerson 38 years ago...
My Kahuna Clark Wilkerson initiated and ordained me as a Huna Priest, and I also was a member of my Kahuna's "Inner Circle"...
At my private ritualized ordination ceremony, my Kahuna Clark Wilkerson eterically summoned Goddess Pele to be invisibilly present to bear witness to my being initiated and ordained by my Kahuna...
I have had a very stong connection to Goddess Pele since that moment, 38 years ago...
Basically after my Kahuna Clark Wilkerson returned to the Hawaiian Islands about a year or two after my ordination as a Huna Priest, I have been operating solitarily and completely on my own as a Huna Priest...
So my expossure to Huna has been pretty much exclusively been through the teachings of my Kahuna and through my fellow Priests and Priestess'es of the "Inner Circle" of my Kahuna...
I lost touch with my fellow priests and priestesses of the "Inner Circle" of my Kahuna when he returned to Hawaii...
The "Inner Circle" of my Kahuna was called: "The Church Of Cosmic Wisdom" and membership in "The Church Of Cosmic Wisdom" was restricted to the priests and priestesses ordained and inititated by my Kahuna...
You and Two Bears and Huna Mind are the very 1st people, who are strongly connected with Huna, that I have interacted with in about 35 years...
I located Huna Mind and Two Bears only 2 or 3 months ago, through my finding Two bears forum...
Love...Life...Light...
"Kaula Pele"
Huna Priest
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Phil
Ireland
190 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2008 : 10:05:00
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Aloha
My my working largely on your own for over 30 years is long long time. Reading your post I realised that Madeleine Morris author of Miracles of Mana Force was part of your group. I had never made that connection in my mind before.
The post about Kahana Lani is indeed on the Huna Mind site. I think I joined Two Bears site a few years back and I bleieve I am right in saying he bought my Huna Training audio tape series (now re-mastered to audio DVD) and I know I sent him copies of my two books on Huna but he never reviewed them or made any comments about the books accept to say someting along the lines of "he did not know where they came from," when I asked him if he received them. Most curious.
I had a quick look at your posts on his forum this morning and as far as I am aware Madame Pele can manifest anywhere on the earth she chooses. Being what she is, she is not and could not be bound by time or space.
A hui Hou is common Hawaiian phrase that simply means "Until we meet again" or "see ya!"
E Malama pono (take care of yourself or stay in balance)
Phil
Aka Kihonua
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Huna_Priest
USA
30 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2008 : 23:55:54
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Originally posted by Phil
Aloha
My my working largely on your own for over 30 years is long long time. Reading your post I realised that Madeleine Morris author of Miracles of Mana Force was part of your group. I had never made that connection in my mind before.
I had a quick look at your posts on his forum this morning and as far as I am aware Madame Pele can manifest anywhere on the earth she chooses. Being what she is, she is not and could not be bound by time or space.
Phil
Aka Kihonua
Aloha Phil,
I will email Huna Mind about that post on Kahuna Lani later this week...
Regarding Madeleine Morris author of Miracles of Mana Force, it turns out that I happened to run across her book in a used book store several years ago, and bought it...
And YES... She also studied under my Kahuna Clark Wilkerson...
And yes, I too am certain that Goddess Pele is capable of materializing anywhere in this world..
But from all of my research, I have found no indications that Goddess Pele PUBLICALLY materializes outside of the Hawaiian Islands...
Though I am inclined to believe that she has occassionally PRIVATELY materialized to someone outside of the Hawaiian Islands...
Love...Life...Light...
"Kaula Pele"
Huna Priest
PS... I don't know if you are curious why I always close my posts with: Love...Life...Light...
It's because Love...Life...Light... are the 3 L's of "The Church Of Cosmic Wisdom"...
Other Huna Priests and Priestess'es of my Kahuna should recognize me as a Huna Priest of "The Church Of Cosmic Wisdom" by my use of the 3 L's...
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Huna_Priest
USA
30 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2008 : 00:04:58
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Aloha Phil,
I forgot to mention that Goddess Pele has summoned me to come to Hawaii to see her face-to-face...
It's because of this that I have concluded that Goddess Pele doesn't PRESENTLY materialize outside of Hawaii..
Otherwise, why didn't Goddess Pele just materialize to me in my living room, instead of summoning me to come see her in Hawaii...
Love...life...Light...
"Kaula Pele"
Huna Priest
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Phil
Ireland
190 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2008 : 01:14:59
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Aloha,
Its true that I have not heard of anyone saying that Madame Pele has materialized physically outside of the Hawaiian islands. Though etherically thats a different story as many people have a connection with her outside of Hawaii. When I was in Sedona in AZ in March this year found a copy of a poster painting of Madame Pele by the visionary artist Susan Seddon Boulet. Its very good.
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Huna_Priest
USA
30 Posts |
Posted - 14/08/2008 : 00:02:28
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Originally posted by Phil
Aloha,
Its true that I have not heard of anyone saying that Madame Pele has materialized physically outside of the Hawaiian islands. Though etherically thats a different story as many people have a connection with her outside of Hawaii. When I was in Sedona in AZ in March this year found a copy of a poster painting of Madame Pele by the visionary artist Susan Seddon Boulet. Its very good.
Kihonua
Aloha Phil,
Goddess Pele has etherically manifested to me on many occassions...
I see that you refer to Goddess Pele as Madame Pele, instead of Goddess Pele...
I am a little bit confused on what is the difference between looking at Pele as a Goddess or looking at Pele as Madame ??
I am inclined to think that means that you do not personally see Pele as a Goddess...
I have never ever heard of anyone calling any of the Egyptian Goddess'es Madame...
Like for instance, calling Egyptian Goddess Bast, Madame Bast..
Or calling Egyptian Goddess Isis, Madame Isis...
Or calling Egyptian Goddess Nuit, Madame Nuit...
Or calling Egyptian Goddess Maat, Madame Maat...
love...Life...Light...
"Kaula Pele"
Huna Priest
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Phil
Ireland
190 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2008 : 01:22:45
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My My in bold...
I have never ever heard of anyone calling any of the Egyptian Goddess'es Madame...
so loud! 
Actually it has little to do with Pele's status as a Goddess more to do with the nature of my relationship with her. Plus the Hawaiian attitude towards their Gods and Godesses is somewhat dfifferent to our Western viewpoints and attitudes. The Hawaiian attitude is not in any way irreverant but it is very pragmatic. |
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Huna_Priest
USA
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Posted - 20/08/2008 : 22:23:16
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Originally posted by Phil
My My in bold...
I have never ever heard of anyone calling any of the Egyptian Goddess'es Madame...
so loud!
Actually it has little to do with Pele's status as a Goddess more to do with the nature of my relationship with her. Plus the Hawaiian attitude towards their Gods and Godesses is somewhat dfifferent to our Western viewpoints and attitudes. The Hawaiian attitude is not in any way irreverant but it is very pragmatic.
Aloha Phil,
I meant no insult to you by bolding a single sentence !!
I have been online for 15 years, and in my entire time online, you are the very 1st person that I have encountered who has put bolding in the same catagory as using all caps...
I have never ever heard of using bolding as being the same thing as shouting or being loud...
Phil... For a period of over 30 years and until a few months ago... I had absolutely no interaction what-so-ever with anyone connected with Huna...
I met you and Huna Mind and Two Bears only in the last 3 months...
So I am very much in the dark as to how ANYONE outside of the inner circle of my Kahuna regards or sees Goddess Pele or anything else...
Which is the reason why I ask you questions...
I am seriously attempting to gain understanding of how you yourself see and perceive things pertaining to Huna and Goddess Pele...
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Actually it has little to do with Pele's status as a Goddess more to do with the nature of my relationship with her. Plus the Hawaiian attitude towards their Gods and Godesses is somewhat dfifferent to our Western viewpoints and attitudes. The Hawaiian attitude is not in any way irreverant but it is very pragmatic.
Your information above, is so general and brief, that it doesn't help me get out of the dark regarding how someone outside of the inner circle of my Kahuna views Goddess Pele...
Huna Mind and Two Bears ALSO refer to Pele as Madame Pele...
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Plus the Hawaiian attitude towards their Gods and Godesses is somewhat different to our Western viewpoints and attitudes.
Phil... I talked about the fact that Egyptian Goddesses are never referred to as 'Madame"...In regards to your quote above,since when is Egypt considered part of the West ??
I have never ever heard of any Goddess of the East called Madame...
I have never ever heard of any Goddess, from anywhere on this entire planet being called Madame, except for Goddess Pele...
In fact, I have never heard of any of the other Polynesian/Hawaiian Goddesses being called Madame...
So could you please tell me why is Goddess Pele the ONLY Goddess on this entire planet that is called Madame ??
Love...Life...Light...
Kaula Pele
Huna Priest
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Phil
Ireland
190 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2008 : 11:59:59
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Aloha Kaula Pele,
I wasnt insulted but i was generally suprised at not just the bold sentence but the overall tone of your response as it very much read as if you, as a priest initiate of Pele, were rather insulted by perhaps what you perceived as irreverance on my part.
As to the Egyptian link to the West many believe that Christianity had its real birth in ancient Egypt, and alchemy so popular in Europe in the middle ages drew deeply on ancient teaching from Egypt and Greece.
Anyway thats not the issue. The reality is that many Hawaiians refer to Pele as Madame Pele precisely because she appears to some in human form; sometimes as an old hag, a child or a beautiful girl. She was often accompanied by a small dog. At other times she manifests as elemental fire itself. Onbe of her Hawaiian names translates as "earth eating woman" (ka wahine 'ai honua).
Her manifestation is not always literally a warping or weaving of elemental etheric substance into human form (called in Hawaiian
"Kino ho'opaha'oha'o") but was more often considered to be a possession of an actual human being by the the spirit of Pele (the "kino lau" teaching which simply translated means "many bodies"). Spirit possession was a common experience in Hawaii. Traditionally Pele was only worshipped by people born into her family. To be a part of Pele's family you needed either to be born into a family connected with one of the many Pele spirits (the Kumu pa'a) or to have been adopted and given a name by Pele herself usually in a dream.
Most Hawaiians that I know simply refer to her as Pele or Madame Pele. It may seem odd to you but calling her Madame Pele is a mark of respect but it is also embodied in her Hawaiian names as I mentioned before i.e. many of her various names use the word "wahine" meaning simply woman.
You asked...
"So could you please tell me why is Goddess Pele the ONLY Goddess on this entire planet that is called Madame ??
I cant really answer that as it really far to broad a generalisation. I know little or nothing of the hundreds of still surviving aboriginal or first nation cultures who have all their own Gods and Goddesses. Though I do believe that some of the African tribal Goddesses are referred to with the equivalent term.
I am happy to answer any further questions
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Huna_Priest
USA
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Posted - 21/08/2008 : 22:39:17
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Aloha Phil,
Thank you very much for your last reply...
It was a big help to my getting a better understanding of the Hawaiian perspective of Goddess Pele...
I am endeavoring to gain a better understanding of Hawaiian perspectives towards Huna and Goddess Pele prior to my upcoming trip to Hawaii...
You, Huna Mind and Two Bears have each given me some helpful insights into Hawaiian perspectives...
I am really glad that I found this forum and appreciate that you share your wisdom with me...
And I was not insulted pertaining to your calling Pele, Madame Pele...
I was however a little bit confused over her being called Madame Pele by you and others, and your explanation in your last reply cleared up my confusion quite well...Thanks again for your wisdom...
Love...Life...Light...
Kaula Pele
Huna Priest
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Huna_Priest
USA
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Posted - 28/08/2008 : 22:39:34
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Aloha Phil,
I will attempt to reconstruct the post on my spiritual quest that you accidentally deleted...
Below is a quote from a website on Goddess Pele...
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Pele is known for her violent temper, but also for her common visits among mortals.
She is said to appear either as a tall, beautiful young woman or as a very old, ugly and frail woman.
She is often accompanied by a white dog and typically tests people.
Myths are told of Pele wandering up to people in the form of an old beggar
woman, asking them if they have any food or drink to spare.
Those who share with her are rewarded and spared.
Those who are greedy and unkind to her are punished by having their homes or crops destroyed, so that they themselves may have to rely on the kindness of others.
With the above quote in mind, I am going to Oahu for the speciific purpose of finding and seeing and interacting with Goddess Pele face-to-face in the flesh in the physical plane...
It is my understanding that Goddess Pele most frequently materializes into the physical plane on the Big Island and Oahu...
Because Goddess Pele is known to frequently materialize into the physical plane and walk among mortal man and mortal woman...
As a priest of Goddess Pele ( Kaula Pele ), I have of my own free will, dedicated myself to serving Goddess Pele, so it will be such a great honor and joy to actually stand in the presence of my Goddess and look directly into the eyes of her spirit and communicate with her face-to-face...
I have a special present for Goddess Pele that I will present to her when I see her...
Earlier I said that I would be looking for Goddess Pele when I get to Hawaii....
It would be much more accurate if I say that Goddess Pele will know when I arrive in Oahu and she will know exactly where I am, at any given moment throughout my stay in Hawaii...
Therefore if I am going to see her, it will be up to Goddess Pele to materialize somewhere in my vicinity, so I can be able to run into her, while I am visiting the many numerous beautiful sights throughout Oahu...
For me, to see Goddess Pele face-to-face will be the greatest and most wonderful event in my entire life...
Love...Life...Light...
Kaula Pele
Huna Priest
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Huna_Priest
USA
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Posted - 29/08/2008 : 21:38:06
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Aloha Phil,
Have you noticed all of the page hits on this discussion ??
Obviously a number of people are reading this discussion...
Hey people... If you are either already a member of this forum, or have just been an observer so far, it would be great if you starting joining Phil and myself in making posts...
Anyone who is reading this discussion must have some interest in Huna or Goddess Pele...
Love...Life...Light...
Kaula Pele
Huna Priest
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Huna_Priest
USA
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Posted - 29/08/2008 : 21:45:42
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Originally posted by Phil
Aloha Kaula Pele,
I made a special connection with madame pele on Kaua'i a few years backs as the result of a ritual healing at a heiau there. I will tell you more about it when I have finished teaching here on August 6th.
A hui hou
Phil
Aloha Phil,
I am still eagerly waiting to hear about your experience with Goddess Pele on Kaua'i a few years back...
Love...Life...Light...
Kaula Pele
Huna Priest
ordained by Kahuna Wilkerson
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Phil
Ireland
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Posted - 05/09/2008 : 10:53:38
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Aloha,
Firstly, let me apologise for the delay in reply to your post. I'm just in an extremely busy teaching period at the moment.
The experience I had with Mme Pele took place on the island of Kaua'i back in 2001. I was accompanied by my partner Kuoha. At the time I had been struggling with a particular physical problem that had been resistant to other kinds of treatment and we decided that a healing ritual done on the island of Kaua'i would perhaps have a greater impact than anything we could do in England where we were living at the time. I won't go into the specific details of the ritual itself or the nature of the particular problem I had at the time. We actually had no intention of invoking Mme Pele as it's not my perception that she is particularly good at healing physical problems as that is not her forte. The ritual itself culminated in a visit to the heiau at Lydates State Park near Kapaa, there are at least four temples in this area. As I was sitting inside the stone enclosure of one of the temples I heard a very clear and distinct female voice in my head say "and what gift you going to leave me in exchange for this, " and then I also heard it say "such a healing requires that you leave something of yourself behind," in my own mind I was really confused both as to the identity of the voice and also what it was exactly that I could leave behind. In asking the voice its identity it assumed a somewhat mocking quality, saying that it was sure I knew exactly who it was. I replied that I did not know who the voice belonged to and it simply replied "you know me we met in a dream." Now, I didn't actually have any recollection of meeting any female Hawaiian deities or entities in any dream not consciously anyway. And yet, I immediately realised it was Mme Pele. I then had a short dialogue in which I found myself getting quite emotional and tearful and she said to me "you have to leave your sadness behind, that is what I want from you, that is what you must leave behind here on the island, this is the gift I require from you." At which point, as you can imagine, the floodgates of my emotional body opened and did indeed leave a great deal of very deep sadness behind.
I was talking about the experience with a very good friend who lives on the island and has done so for the last 16 years, she pointed out to me that all the waterfalls that appear on the islands after the rains are often referred to as Pele's tears. Somehow, it all seemed appropriate. Since that time, I have had quite a deep and ongoing connection with Mme Pele both when I been in the island's as well as back in Europe.
Interestingly, later the following day we were able to hike into the centre of the crater at Waialeale, the extinct volcano that is the heart of the island. It was an extraordinary and intense experience. Being, if you like, in Mme Pele's abode. It led to some very strange experiences that night one of which involved having the absolute experience of falling through the dinner table down into the earth. Leaving me with my consciousness split between my physical body at the dinner table and another aspect of my consciousness deep in the earth. I distinctly remember laughter. I'm sure you know who was laughing.
We actually taught a short Huna course in Cape Cod area in MA, USA immediately after that which was a truly intense and profund experience for both us and the sixty particpants.
A hui hou
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Phil
Ireland
190 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2008 : 07:45:54
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Aloha,
I inadvertently locked this topic. Its open for posting again now.
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Huna_Priest
USA
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Posted - 06/09/2008 : 21:47:55
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Originally posted by Phil
Aloha,
I inadvertently locked this topic. Its open for posting again now.
Phil
Aloha Phil,
Yes... I was wondering why this discussion was locked...
Would you believe that I have "P E L E" tatooed across the fingers of one of my hands ??
Love...Life...Light...
Kaula Pele
Huna Priest
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Phil
Ireland
190 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2008 : 02:13:34
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Huna_Priest
USA
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Posted - 08/09/2008 : 22:43:16
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Aloha Phil,
My clock is ticking away, as I leave late Wednesday night to take a Grayhound Bus to the airport...
Goddess Pele here I come in response to your summoning me !!
I will find out what Goddess Pele has in store for me when I get to Hawaii...
Last night the thought came to me that I have been waiting all of my life for Goddess Pele to summon me to come to physically see her in Hawaii...
Love...Life...Light...
Kaula Pele
Huna Priest
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Phil
Ireland
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Posted - 09/09/2008 : 14:10:40
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Aloha,
Yes the clock is ticking and your journey to the islands approaches rapidly. I wish you well on your journey and trust that you will receive the rain of many blessings during your time in Hawaii.
I look forward to reading a full report here on your return.
E malama pono
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USA
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Posted - 25/09/2008 : 01:30:34
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Originally posted by Phil
Aloha,
Yes the clock is ticking and your journey to the islands approaches rapidly. I wish you well on your journey and trust that you will receive the rain of many blessings during your time in Hawaii.
I look forward to reading a full report here on your return.
E malama pono
Kihopnua
Aloha Phil,
I just got back home from Hawaii within the last 24 hours and I'm still exhausted...
My trip to Hawaii was way beyond fantastic and amazing...
I did in fact receive the rain of many blessings directly from Goddess Pele herself...
I had such an amazing time being with Goddess Pele that on one hand I felt like I died and went to heaven, and on the other hand I felt like I was walking on air and had to look down at my feet from time to time top see if I was physically levitating...
A few native Hawaiians that I met did state to me that they could see Goddess Pele standing directly by my side....
Which didn't surprise me at all since I myself could feel Goddess Pele standing directly next to me...
One native Hawaiian woman, when she saw my t-shirt had "Priest Of Goddess Pele" on it asked me: "Who appointed you as a priest of Goddess Pele"
When I looked her directly in the eyes and informed her: "Goddesss Pele appinted me as her priest", she then had no further questions...
Love...Life..Light...
Kaula Pele
Huna Priest
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Ireland
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Posted - 28/09/2008 : 07:44:48
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Aloha,
Now that you have had time to settle what are or will be the outcomes of your visit to Hawaii?
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Huna_Priest
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Posted - 28/09/2008 : 12:32:12
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Aloha Phil,
One native Hawaiian woman who sold hand carved wooden Tiki figures in a mall....
She and I had a conversation while I was purchasing on of her Tiki
figures...
I was sharing with her several revelations that Goddess Pele had given to me as her priest...
While we were talking I informed her that Goddess Pele was invisibly ( non-physically ) standing directly on my right side...
To my surprise the Hawaiian woman smiled and replied, Yes... I see
Goddess Pele standing next to you...
Love...Life...Light...
Kaula Pele
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Phil
Ireland
190 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2008 : 13:01:49
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Aloha Kahuna Raven,
My apologies for not replying sooner but I have been busy teaching Huna for the last 10 days. Seems like you had an interesting time on Oahu.
i smiled when I read "Hearing these things about Goddess Pele gives me goose bumps of joy" the usual Hawaiian phrase for that experience is "chicken skin."
Moving to the islands is quite a big thing and makes me realise that you still have not shared much about yourself in a general sense your general life and work, how you came to Huna in the first place and whether you have ever taught huna etc etc.
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Huna_Priest
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Posted - 07/10/2008 : 00:22:18
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Originally posted by Phil
Aloha Kahuna Raven,
My apologies for not replying sooner but I have been busy teaching Huna for the last 10 days. Seems like you had an interesting time on Oahu.
Kihonua
Aloha Phil,
I find it ironic that I know almost nothing about you except that you teach Huna and yet I keep baring my heart and my soul in almost every post I make and you keep repeating that I say nothing about myself...
Love...Life...Light...
Kaula Pele
Kahuna Raven
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Edited by - Huna_Priest on 09/10/2008 19:25:29 |
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Huna_Priest
USA
30 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2008 : 08:24:27
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Aloha Phil,
Let's see if I can further enlighten you about myself in general and my life in general and my work in general !!
My life in general... My work in general... And there is only one answer to all of your inquiries...
Goddess Pele... Goddess Pele...Goddess Pele...Goddess Pele...Goddess Pele...Goddess Pele...Goddess Pele...Goddess Pele...Goddess Pele...Goddess Pele...Goddess Pele...Goddess Pele...Goddess Pele...
Perhaps now you understand where I am coming from more clearly !
Love...Life...Light...
Kaula Pele
Kahuna Raven
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Edited by - Huna_Priest on 09/10/2008 19:31:25 |
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Phil
Ireland
190 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2008 : 01:11:16
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Hmm interesting response.
Your comment
"I find it ironic that I know almost nothing about you except that you teach Huna and yet I keep baring my heart and my soul in almost every post I make and you keep repeating that I say nothing about myself..."
A look at the rest of this website beyond the bulletin Board, the articles and books that I have written plus the "about us" section would tell you a great deal about me.
Personally, I am always interested in the simple everyday human aspects of people who teach or feel they have a mission. There is no requirement to reply of course. I think I, in part, was just curious as to your shift in signing off from Kaula Pele to Kahuna Raven. I have always been amused by your refusal to address me by my Hawaiian name yet you don't share your first name as given by your parents just a title at first then at least something a little more real as in the name Raven but I don't imagine you were given that name by your parents.
To be honest I have no idea what your connection to your percpetion of Goddess Pele really means or how it manifests practically in the world apart from the fact that it is the bedrock of at least part of your being.
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Huna_Priest
USA
30 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2008 : 19:01:27
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Originally posted by Phil
Hmm interesting response.
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I think I, in part, was just curious as to your shift in signing off from Kaula Pele to Kahuna Raven.
Love...Life...Light...
Kaula Pele
Kahuna Raven
That is how I have been signing off....
i didn't shift my signing off from "Kaula Pele' to "Kahuna Pele"
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I have always been amused by your refusal to address me by my Hawaiian name
For your information, how could I have refused to address you as "Kihopnua" when you never ever actually told me that you would prefer that I call you "Kihopnua" instead of "Phil"...
Excuse me for failing to read your mind on how you wanted me to address you...
But since you have now indicated that you want to be addressed as "Kihopnua", I will start addressing you as "Kihopnua"...
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You don't share your first name as given by your parents just a title at first then at least something a little more real as in the name Raven but I don't imagine you were given that name by your parents.
"Kihopnua" just why do you assume that Raven is not my real 1st name ?? Would you like me to send you a copy of my social security card ??
It's very simple, you could have merely asked me what my real 1st name is or asked me if Raven is my real 1st name...
I never asked you if Phil was the name your parents gave you...
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Phil
Ireland
190 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2008 : 01:13:26
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Aloha Raven,
Was the misspelling of Kihonua deliberate? Or just an unconscious annoyance?
True you did sign off just Kaula Pele but then sometime later added Kahuna Raven. At first, by you always signing yourself off with a title I could never address you in any other way. Seemed a little odd like replying Hello Mr,..... so sometimes I did not address the reply at all.
Oh and of course you can send me your social security card if you wish to.
Philip was indeed my name as given by my parents. It derives from the Greek Philos Hippos meaning lover of horses. As my mother was a great horse lover and owned a riding stable I always assumed that was why
she named me that but I asked her before she died and she said no. In reality I think it was just one of those popular names at the time die to the British Queen and Prince Philip.
Interestingly, Queen Kapiolani and princess Liliuokalani (later Hawaii's last Queen) visited England in 1887 and sadly one of the other Hawaiian princesses who accompanied her died in London and is buried there. To the Hawaiians lineage is everything. They had different beliefs about past lives than those prevalent in India which got exported to the West. Of course, the Indian concept of past lives had a strong socio-political basis and was used as a very effective control mechanism.
On another subject entirely I am mildly curious as to exactly what your Goddess Pele wants you to try and achieve in the outer world?
Phil aka Kihonua
Kahuna of the Order of KU
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Huna_Priest
USA
30 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2008 : 16:36:26
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Originally posted by Phil
Aloha Raven,
Was the misspelling of Kihonua deliberate? Or just an unconscious annoyance?
Kihonua.... Do you feel like I am persecuting you ??
As I neither deliberately misspelled your name NOR was it because I was unconsciously annoyed...I speak very very little Hawaiian, which is why I used to call you Phil... I never misspelled Phil and the very 1st time I attempt to call you by your Hawaiian name I misspell it... It is starting to look like I can't do anything right by you
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True you did sign off just Kaula Pele but then sometime later added Kahuna Raven. At first, by you always signing yourself off with a title I could never address you in any other way. Seemed a little odd like replying Hello Mr,..... so sometimes I did not address the reply at all.
I did tell you previously that Goddess Pele herself is the one who appointed me as a Kahuna, while I was in Hawaii...
I think that you would agree that prior to my recent trip to Hawaii, I never referred to myself as a Kahuna...
You act like you believe that Goddess Pele does not have the right or authority to appoint me as a Kahuna ??
Goddess Pele told me to present myself as a Kahuna, Kihonua do you have a problem with Goddess Pele telling me to present myself as a Kahuna ??
Philip was indeed my name as given by my parents. It derives from the Greek Philos Hippos meaning lover of horses. As my mother was a great horse lover and owned a riding stable I always assumed that was why
she named me that but I asked her before she died and she said no. In reality I think it was just one of those popular names at the time die to the British Queen and Prince Philip.
My mother was a fan of Edgar Allen Poe, so I am named after the famous poem by Poe, "The Raven"...
On another subject entirely I am mildly curious as to exactly what your Goddess Pele wants you to try and achieve in the outer world?
All I will say about this matter is the following:
Goddess Pele has HER plan and vision regarding the Hawaiian Islands and the Hawaiian peoples...
As HER priest, I will assist Goddess Pele in any way that SHE wishes me to, in order for HER to manifest HER plan into the physical world...
Goddess Pele has been slowly working towards HER plan for many centuries...
I don't need to tell you any more about Goddess Pele's plan just to satisfy your curiousity...
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Phil aka Kihonua
Kahuna of the Order of KU
Love...Life...Light...
Kaula Pele
Kahuna Raven
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Phil
Ireland
190 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2008 : 10:47:57
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Hi Raven,
In many ways, in ancient Hawaii a "Kaula" (a prophet or seer) is seen as someone of a higher status than a simple kahuna.
This conversation began as a simple dialogue around your journey to Hawaii. At various times and for various reasons I have challenged your position and not simply out of curiosity even thougfh I have used that term. One thing I have come to know is that there are many personalities in the "huna" world who delight in attacking people who have deeply held if somewhat divergent or unusual beliefs (the ridiculous ego driven dialogue of oconner and kahuna lani on this board being but one example). Of course, it behoves us to be able to both defend our own position and to interact appropriately. Sometimes silence is the best response.
As far as I can tell you have very emotional beliefs that form the bedrock of your experience. I have no problem with that but It does make interacting with you in any kind deeper way impossible as any challenge to your position, attitudes or beliefs meets an intense emotionality. Again as far as it goes that is fine. It just does not give us any basis for discussion and debate. That was one of my resons for creating this bulletin board many years ago. I quickly discovered that most people who study huna come from a strong emotional base. I do too but I love intellectual debate and challenge. I have been at the receiving end of this from Hawaiian elders and had to prove myself in their eyes. I could not simply resort to emotion in my response.
So I wish you well in your endeavour to move to Hawaii.
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Huna_Priest
USA
30 Posts |
Posted - 13/10/2008 : 13:58:44
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Aloha Kihonua,
Were you attempting to tell me in your last post that you don't wish to communicate with me any more ??
I have noticed that you never directly answer many of questions that I have asked you in numerous posts...
It would be a lot easier to communicate with you if you didn't ignore much of what I have shared with you...
As I have written you posts that took me hours to write and you often only give me a 2 or 3 sentence reply...
Plus you have demonstrated a tendency to jump to false conclusions which has put me in a defensive mode with you...
Are you just pessimistic by nature, as from my perspective, you appear to be an extremely pessimistic person, as reflected by the negative comments you often make to me...
I won't use the title Kahuna on this forum anymore unless you will answer the 2 questions below that I asked you previously regarding Goddess Pele...
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You act like you believe that Goddess Pele does not have the right or authority to appoint me as a Kahuna ??
Goddess Pele told me to present myself as a Kahuna, Kihonua do you have a problem with Goddess Pele telling me to present myself as a Kahuna ??
Love...Life...Light...
Kaula Pele
Huna Priest
PS...( In this forum, Huna Priest is not a title... Huna Priest is my user name in this forum )
(So you call call me by my user name of Huna Priest or Raven )
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Phil
Ireland
190 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2009 : 15:44:23
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I saw this book on my trip to maui last month. Its an interesting book. Phil
Madame Pele, True Encounters with Hawaii's Fire Goddess - $11.95
Bess Press
Collected by Rick Carroll
softcover, 127p
A collection of stories from real people who have had experiences where they feel they met or were effected by the Volcanoe Goddess Pele. Twenty contributors provide a wide and interesting variety of stories. |
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Taking Trip To Oahu
